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Reactionary Americans, proving the world right in their stereotypes every day. 
3rd-Feb-2013 02:18 am
berlin
Because, haven't you heard, Liberals = Hitler!

(I seriously can't believe that there are people who actually believe that to be true. And share it on Facebook. And then argue back "you're reactionary" when getting pointed out why that is stupid, with a ton of arguments, such as "Gun control legislation does not equal being responsible for the death of 70 million people. Still, this just happened to me.)
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10th-May-2013 09:46 am (UTC)
The best/worst part is that it's just false. Hitler actually liberalized gun regulations. After the Germans lost WWI, full gun registration was implemented, and it was difficult to get a license. Hitler liberalized these rules, and made guns much more easily available (for non-Jews, Jews weren't allowed to own guns at all.)
10th-May-2013 11:43 am (UTC)
The quote itself is fabricated, too.

And that notion that the Holocaust wouldn't have happened if the Jews had been armed - I always wonder how the people who come up with those scenarios (in which I bet they fantasise about themselves as heroic Nazi-killers) envision that happening. Shoot the Gestapo men who came to arrest your family, then grab your spouse, your children (including a toddler), your grandmother, and your disabled uncle, and... what? Begin life as an armed rebel band? Yes, there was armed resistance against the Nazis in various places, with varying grades of success, but it simply wouldn't have been possible to most people, whether armed or not, and even if it had been possible, certainly wouldn't have been the guaranteed overwhelming success those people seem to envision.
10th-May-2013 05:57 pm (UTC)
Certain American conservatives (unfortunately often elected) believe something similar about slavery - if the slaves had guns, slavery would never have happened, therefore gun laws should be liberalised. I am really not sure what kind of brain you have to have to assume that slavery meant that the slaves could have guns.

Of course, the even more depressing part is that now a number of people of similar ideological bent are claiming that blacks should be grateful - slavery provided them with food and shelter, after all.

This bruise on my forehead seems to be permanent by now.
10th-May-2013 07:31 pm (UTC)
The really ironic thing here is that the Second Amendment was made largely because the Southern slave states wanted to keep their rights to form slave-hunting 'militia' groups - there's a lot of rhetoric by senators of the period about guns being necessary for free men to secure their freedom. As opposed to, y'know, slaves using them to secure theirs.
14th-May-2013 01:19 am (UTC)
Or that selling guns to West Africa actually fuelled the slave trade- they were one of the goods commonly traded for slaves and made the raiding and warfare which were carried on in order to obtain more slaves more effective.
10th-May-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
I remember a friend's conservative dad told me that gun control was wrong. After all, he said, Hitler supported gun control. He also supported banning abortion, I said. This shut him up.
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13th-May-2013 04:16 pm (UTC)
Is it just me, or is the time period before Godwin's Law take effect becoming shorter and shorter in internet conversations??
28th-May-2013 02:35 pm (UTC)
+1
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